Episode 23

The Dark Matter of Nutrition: Looking at Biodiversity and Agroecology in the Data with Dr. Stephan van Vliet

Published on: 9th August, 2022

Dr. Stephan van Vliet is at the forefront of researching what he calls the ‘dark matter’ of nutrition. Beyond the nutrition facts panel, beyond just protein, fat, and carboyhydrates and beyond the vitamins and minerals we are familiar with lies a world called metabolomics where thousands and tens of thousands of compounds and phytochemicals exist. Dr. van Vliet is looking at these compounds and in how food is grown - whether it’s conventional, regenerative (which Dr. van Vliet refers to as agroecological) and whether it’s plant-based or animal-based agriculture. In this episode, we explore the nutrient cycle from soil to plant to animal to human and back to soil in depth. We look at biodiversity from the level of metabolomics, whether it’s diverse forage for cattle to graze, or a diverse array of species to nourish the soil, or diversity in the human diet. We discuss everything from older animals, water in the West, what flavor may indicate, seasonality and how it influences the compounds in meat, and so much more.

We also talk about:


  • Are older animals more rich in phytonutrients?
  • How seasonality influences phytonutrient content
  • Can humans have the innate wisdom in their food choices we see in animals?
  • Do we have tunnel vision when it comes to greenhouse gases?
  • Farmer Pprotests in the Netherlands (Dr. van Vliet is from the Netherlands)

Find Dr. van Vliet


Twitter: @vanvlietphd 


Google Scholar Profile


Be a part of Dr. Vanvliet’s Research on Beef: Bionutrient Institute 


Further Reading:


Nourishment by Fred Provenza


Life in the Rocky Mountains by Warren Angus Ferris


Related Ground Work Episodes:


Chewing the Fat with Brad Marshall


Other Podcasts featuring Dr. van Vliet:


On Fundamental Health


On Peak Human


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Mind, Body, and Soil
Where the health of land and the health of bodies and communities meet.
Welcome to Mind, Body, and Soil. Join me, Kate Kavanaugh, a farmer, entrepreneur, and holistic nutritionist, as I get curious about human nature, health, and consciousness as viewed through the lens of nature. At its heart, this podcast is about finding the threads of what it means to be humans woven into this earth. I'm digging into deep and raw conversations with truly impactful guests that are laying the ground work for themselves and many generations to come. We dive into topics around farming, grief, biohacking, regenerative agriculture, spirituality, nutrition, and beyond. Get curious and get ready with new episodes every Tuesday!

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